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Old 01-06-2013, 10:38 PM   #1
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Here's the deal, I rent a shop with a couple friends and love building trucks. I've almost bought multiple c10's, but no luck so far. I'm an s10 guy for now. Some of you know me, most of you don't. Here's my s10 at it's prime with a swapped fresh 350, .030 over etc etc.





Here she is now, in the progress of a complete rebuild. Frame is sandblasted and in primer, gonna paint the inner c-channel then box it all in with 3/16" plate, with a notch and 4link.


ANYWAY, enough about me. This is c10forum, not s10forum.

A good friend of mine from Toronto owns this badass 85 c10. It's fully bagged with air management, but doesn't lay out. No problem, he loves it.


BUT, theres a huge problem. Although he dropped in this rebuilt '87 350, the person who did the swap didn't care about asthetics. The owner cares, so it's coming to me. Here is the new motor in the mayhem engine bay




I looked into A/C delete, but was told the firewall is completely different, as well as the dash venting and heater core. Suggestions highly appreciated.

Here's a picture of my s10 engine bay, with more wires visable than I'd like.


I'm going to paint everything in his as well. Firewall, fenders, etc. I have brand new inner fenders for it, too. His are rotten.

I should be getting the truck Tuesday evening, motor and tranny should be out on Wednesday afternoon. I have a big order of parts coming from Summit, they'll be at a friend's on Tuesday and at my shop on Wednesday when she brings them down. She lives near Niagara Falls so she'll be picking them up from across the border.
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Old 01-07-2013, 04:28 AM   #2
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Cool man. Sounds like fun. Keep us updated
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:04 AM   #3
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cool looking trucks man....
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:04 AM   #4
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:42 AM   #5
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Thanks guys! Such a positive vibe on this forum all the time, love it! One day I'll get a low and wide c10..
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Thanks guys! Such a positive vibe on this forum all the time, love it! One day I'll get a low and wide girlfriend..
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:15 PM   #7
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thats a sweet S10, and the C10 should look even when done
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:39 AM   #8
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Nice looking s10. I'll be willing to trade anyday haha..

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Old 01-09-2013, 01:34 PM   #9
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damn, makes me miss my s10... RIP. good luck on the project keep us posted i've got a mess under my hood too so curious how you will be cleaning it up.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:37 AM   #10
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Alright, as planned, I got the truck last night. Was a late night driving the owner, Trevor (who will be making an appearance in here shortly) back to Toronto. About an hour drive each way.

Made some notes with him, planned it all out, boom. I spent the majority of today running some errands with it, mostly playing with the bags. Confusing people at stop lights is great fun!


Got it back into the shop in the evening and started shaving the stake pockets on the box. I cut some 22 gauge sheetmetal out and welded it into the box, ground down the welds and skimmed over em with Bondo.







Waiting for an air sander to level it all out, fuck sanding by hand!

All cozy in the shop


Threw the new aircleaner and nut on, such a big improvement already!


I've got all 4 stake pockets welded shut, have one to grind down then fill the passanger side and sand down both sides for a second layer of filler. Also have to wire wheel or sandblast all the old seam sealer out of the box and lay down some new sealer.

Once the box is done, I'll be putting it outside for now. It has to come off or atleast move back so that I can weld in a new cab corner on the passanger side.

I'm hoping to have the engine and tranny out of the truck tomorrow, or atleast ready to come out. Tranny is getting a shift kit, filter and fluid flush. Also have to replace the front seal on it.

I picked up a gasket kit for the motor, everything except the head gaskets. Whoever built this thing didn't do much right, everything leaks, bad. Oh well, pays my bills. That's all for tonight, lots more tomorrow!
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:41 AM   #11
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:22 AM   #12
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....what else have you got planned?
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:43 AM   #13
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looking good bro keep the pics coming....
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:48 AM   #14
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Thanks guys! Lots of pics will be coming through.

Moose, you'll just have to wait and see
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I'm waiting.....
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:05 AM   #16
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Not a whole lot of progress, got the hood off and started working on getting the motor ready to pull.



Pulled all the AC and lines, I will be trading all the factory AC for some body work at my old work. The body guy, Dave, will pop the dent out of the front left fender and re-seam seal the cab corners. Good deal to me! especially since the AC needs to GO.


Picking up my buddy's engine hoist today, then pulling the exhaust and driveshaft. motor should be out tonight
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it's still progress bro...
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:00 AM   #19
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Got my buddy's engine crane to the shop, pulled the exhaust and driveshaft. Here's the factory cat from 85, with a fill plug for the catalyst beads. Pretty neat.


Was planning on getting the motor out but my buddy was putting a mid-mount innercooler in his 240sx so I gave him a hand.

I made this cold-side pipe for him out of 2.5" exhaust and some old coolant bypass pipe for the cold-start tube. pie-cut it and welded it back together for some angle. I literally just did a bunch of tacks, I hate welding thin metal. kinda ugly but sealed up great!
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looks good...
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:57 AM   #21
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Motor is on too much of a tilt in the picture, we actually had a bolt pull out of the head when lifting it at first. Scared the fuck out of me, chain went flying. Only fell about 4" though. I'm gonna try and convince him to replace the heads, otherwise I'll be putting multiple heli-coils into it.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:58 PM   #22
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.....I run the chain from the front of one head, to the back of the other.....but it's out, that's all that matters....
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Yeah that chain location when pullin the motor :///// front. Head to back head.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:05 PM   #24
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We wanted SOME angle, but not that much. Oh well, it worked fine. We'll be using an intake plate to put it back in without the tranny



Stripped down the engine bay some more today, also ordered a headgasket set. It's getting some 64cc heads to replace these, there's a couple stripped bolt holes and rather than heli-coiling everything he's getting a pair of heads for free from the guy that did the swap in the first place. Guess he feels guilty it's coming back apart so soon. New heads will also mean we can get cheaper valve covers ($30 instead of $130) and run the billet specialties spark plug wire looms I bought him. I forgot he was centre bolt when I ordered them haha, so it'll work out great.

I pulled the inner fenders, sorted the wiring out a bit, then pulled the wiper cowl, motor, and brake booster.


Should have the engine on a stand by tomorrow and clean the shop up a bit. Shit everywhere, hate it.
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good work!
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hell yeah thats a hell of good progress there.... you must have a nice heated shop there i see you guys wearing t shirts and shit lol.... that cool...
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Yeah man, the shop has heated floors and also a wood stove for colder days. The heat is actually off right now though, it's been super nice out up here the last few days. We didn't get much of a winter this year
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it's not over yet!...lol.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:32 AM   #30
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You jinxed it, got real cold today. Shop door knob even froze haha.

I was at the shop alone for a few hours tonight, so I cleaned up a bunch and did lots.

Engine off the ground and on a stand, this intake is oooold.


gutted the dash, all the HVAC is out properly as well as all the unneccessary wiring such as the computer? wtf?




I'll be basically rewiring the motor, so much clutter with factory stuff. I have almost all the wiring off the firewall except the air management loom, too much to pull through so I'll tape it off and paint around it. steering column can stay in as well. Sorry for the shitty pictures, only have my iPhone.


Found out that the front is hanging up on bump stops, sick! Will it lay out without cupping the lowers or pie cutting the uppers? I don't want to cut the bump stop out if it's gonna bind somewhere else. I'll convince him to lay it out with a dropmember down the road.


The front two bags are on the same air line, ugh. No wonder it has so much body roll. We'll take care of that if/when he lays it out. It's fine for now. Already creeping up on his budget real quick.

We ordered 1.5" gauges by accident, but he likes them. Turns out they fit PERFECTLY in the factory warning light locations.


I'll be able to bolt them right in by only trimming some plastic out of the cluster and maybe making my own brackets since the ones that came with the gauges are ALMOST too small for the holes The gauges sit into the lip a tiny bit, awesome.

I'm REALLY happy with how well this is going, everything unbolts so easy and the entire truck is so simple. I love southern trucks, especially old simple southern trucks. This build has made me decide to sell my daily, a 98 Sonoma, and buy a c10 in the spring. No rush.
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I got the gauges mounted in the stock cluster, I grinded out the plastic behind except for the parking brake light. I'll be tack-welding the gauge bracket to the cluster so that nothing moves.

We decided to put the tach in the AC vent, fuck yeah. Pictures tomorrow.

Trevor came down to check out progress and drop off more funds. Crazy fucker drove 3 hours round trip on his enduro, it's below zero celsius!


While he was down we picked up a lightly used 600cfm edelbrock with mechanical secondaries and an electric choke. should do the job nicely.


It came with an NPT line, so we're gonna grab a fuel filter for it then run rubber or braided line to the filter from the pump.
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sweet! moving along bro i didn't know this thing was bagged get rid off all the bump stops and steering stops and everything on the way lol..... let his thing lay out....
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What size of bag u runnin up front
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:40 PM   #34
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I'm not sure about bag size, it gets lots of lift. The owner won't let me lay it out, he loves how it sits. I'm trying so hard to convince him to lay it out but he just won't budge. Oh well, more reason for me to get one and show him how it's done!
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why run bags if you dont want it to lay?.....Trevor is fucked, that musta been one cold ride....lol get your own c10 and show him how it's done son!...
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I plan on it! Gonna sell my lowered 98 Sonoma in the spring and look for a clean southern c10, preferably manual.
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Alright, we got the motor down and found metal shavings. Also found out the guy who "rebuilt" it before didn't even bore or hone it, and it's got a nasty ring ridge. I'm lending him my fresh 350 from my red s10 and he's gonna rebuild his over time.

Started changing the firewall over to non-AC. Made this badass template with a combonation of the new blower box, the new air ducts, and a section of firewall off a scrapyard truck.


started filling in the AC holes but got frusterated with butt welding with gaps so I'm gonna weld 1" strips on the inside for support, plus I won't blow through nearly as much. I hate welding sheetmetal. Any tips?
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....make sure it's really clean..turn the welder down, and use small tack welds spaced a inch apart, take your time!... I effin hate it too....
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Yeah i'm doing tacks, my welder has 4 heat settings and adjustable wire. I tried it on the 2nd heat setting with a high wire speed but kept blowing through, and on the lowest heat setting it won't weld very good. I'm gonna head out soon and try again, I think the gap of the butt welding I was trying is the problem.
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