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Old 10-04-2010, 07:21 PM   #1
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well my truck is a 78 c10 and i wanted to sand it down to the original primer of the truck and repaint it flat black can i do dat or what can i do to paint it flat black ( this will only be for awhile while save money for a good paint job)
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:30 PM   #2
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yes u can do that. lol
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Old 10-06-2010, 03:04 PM   #3
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with the work involved to do a decent flat black paint job you can have a nice paint job.

i did the temporary cheap dp90 epoxy primer flat black paint job looked good for 2 weeks then faded

a good flat black job with require a black basecoat with a matted clear coat which cost more then regular clear just sanding it down do the work and shoot it with glossy single stage black thats a cheap and NICE paint job
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Hot rod flatz has a black
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The hot rodz flat black is garbage. I painted my bed and it sat outside for a couple of weeks and it chalked up. I ended up painting the truck black base coat with a Interior convertor in the clear to give it the satin finish. It has held up for two years. The good thing about this is that you can wash it and wax it just like a regular paintjob. The only thing you have to watch is your mixing. Keep track of how much you add to the clear if you are painting the truck apart.
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so just sand it down then put primer and hit it with a base coat of black is dat it
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I think he used a flattener in his clear.
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so just sand it down then put primer and hit it with a base coat of black is dat it

If you do that the base coat in permiable to moisture. You will have rust dots popping up. Doing it that way is no better than just primering it.
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If you do that the base coat in permiable to moisture. You will have rust dots popping up. Doing it that way is no better than just primering it.
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Transtar has a matte clear that works well and is fairly cheap-around $60/gal. It is already flattened, so there is no guesswork involved. As stated, the same amt of prep is needed with matte, it's just a lil more forgiving when it comes to mediocre bodywork. I used it on a job about 6 months ago and it hasn't shown signs of oxidation and doesn't stain like a lot of the cheaper matte finishes that are out there.
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Transtar has a matte clear that works well and is fairly cheap-around $60/gal. It is already flattened, so there is no guesswork involved. As stated, the same amt of prep is needed with matte, it's just a lil more forgiving when it comes to mediocre bodywork. I used it on a job about 6 months ago and it hasn't shown signs of oxidation and doesn't stain like a lot of the cheaper matte finishes that are out there.
thats the brand i couldnt remember what the brand was but just last week i sprayed a dodge truck hood flat black with that stuff i was very impressed with how it sprayed and flattened out evenly
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Old 10-26-2010, 06:02 PM   #12
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thats the brand i couldnt remember what the brand was but just last week i sprayed a dodge truck hood flat black with that stuff i was very impressed with how it sprayed and flattened out evenly
Yeah, seems to be good stuff. Transtar has really good economy-line products- they're actually offering basecoats now. I'm real curious to see how it holds up over time.
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i'm have done my share of paint jobs,and as far as cost is concerned,it cost us the same as a gloss clear.the good thing about it is,we save money on the flat jobs cuz,we dont have to spend time and money on wet sanding and buffing.so thats a good thing.
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Transtar has a matte clear that works well and is fairly cheap-around $60/gal. It is already flattened, so there is no guesswork involved. As stated, the same amt of prep is needed with matte, it's just a lil more forgiving when it comes to mediocre bodywork. I used it on a job about 6 months ago and it hasn't shown signs of oxidation and doesn't stain like a lot of the cheaper matte finishes that are out there.
I cant find it, could give us a link.
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I cant find it, could give us a link.
My bad...I called my supplier this am, and it is 5 Star, not Transtar that I was referring to. Here is the link:

http://www.autobodybrands.com/clearcoats/5165.htm

Here is the car that we used it on...nothing special, he just wanted something other than the factory color so we had some fun with it. I generally would not recommend 5 Star products, but this stuff did work pretty good.

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,we save money on the flat jobs cuz,we dont have to spend time and money on wet sanding and buffing.so thats a good thing.
ya that could also be a problem if u get dirt or rough spray you're stuck with it no wet sanding or buffing a flat
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I am going with the Harley Davidson "Black Denim" on my truck. I decided to go with a solid color so that I can paint the truck in pieces at different times and put it all together afterwards and not thave to worry about it not matching. The paint is pretty much PPG Base black and it uses a PPG 30% clear I think. I plan to buy 2 gallons of each making sure that the base paint comes from the same lot and that the clear come from the same (different) lot. Being that there will be no need to add any pigment or mix ourselves, there will be no mismatch when I paint something else a month after having painted other parts. My buddy that is painting my truck said he could get me the 2 gallons of black and 2 gallons of clear for about $400. I dont know if that's his price or retail tho.
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ya that could also be a problem if u get dirt or rough spray you're stuck with it no wet sanding or buffing a flat
if someone gets rough spray,then they should not be painting.lol...ok i'm j/k.its alot harder to get a dirty job with flat jobs,cuz they dry alot faster then gloss.u c the gloss job need time for the clear to flow,with the flat jobs you dont.the way you lay it on the panle is they way it will look.well atleast thats how its been for me.
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The hot rodz flat black is garbage. I painted my bed and it sat outside for a couple of weeks and it chalked up. I ended up painting the truck black base coat with a Interior convertor in the clear to give it the satin finish. It has held up for two years. The good thing about this is that you can wash it and wax it just like a regular paintjob. The only thing you have to watch is your mixing. Keep track of how much you add to the clear if you are painting the truck apart.

I painted mine with Hot Rod Flatz in July of '09 and the truck is still winning trophys. I've had zero issues with the finish and the truck lives outside. I wash the truck with regular products and use Lucas Slick Mist when needed.

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